Posts by disillusioned 2

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

disillusioned 2

I also was a teenager in 1975. As someone else mentioned, it was the build up to 1975 in their books and other literature, starting with the freedom in the sons of God book 1966 (my mum still has that book).

It was all anyone talked about. I left school at 15 because of it. I remember going to friends' congregations and some of them had countdown charts on the wall!

The 1968 watchtower asked "Why are you looking forward to 1975". I wasn't really, I was scared, I didn't want anything to happen, but if it was going to as I was being led to believe then I wanted to be in what I thought was the 'only' place to be to survive. Looking back it all seems so ridiculous now that so many people could have believed this. We were deliberately led to believe this by their literature. It makes me mad when they all deny it was ever said.

That was the main reason I left. The constant denial that they never said it!

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Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

by aley63 in

i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

disillusioned 2

This song was written by Lisa Marie Presley. I believe it was about Scientology.

This here is a city without lights
Those are all the people without eyes

Churches they don't have a soul
Soup for sale without a bowl
Religion so corrupt and running lives

Farewell, fair weathered friends
I can't say I'll miss you in the end

So long, seems that I was so wrong
Seems I wasn't that strong
Dead wrong and now I'm long gone
Wrong side, I've been sleepin' on the wrong side
Stains all over my soul I can't hide
Nothing's more clearer than goodbye

These roads they don't lead to anything
These people they talk, they say nothing

Actors they don't have a part
Heartfelt people with no heart
I'll find a new crowd, make a new start

Farewell, fair weathered friends
I can't say I'll miss you in the end

So long, seems that I was so wrong
Seems I wasn't that strong
Dead wrong and now I'm long gone
Wrong side, I've been sleepin' on the wrong side
Stains all over my soul I can't hide
Nothing's more clearer than goodbye

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen
Say nothing at all if you've nothing nice to say

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How do you manage to keep JW friendships after you left the organization?

by Bonsai in

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it seems incredibly difficult.

those who leave the org.

(or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.

disillusioned 2

Some years ago I dared to ask a few questions to my best friend for years. We were maid of honour at each other's weddings. We brought up our children together from babies. In and out of each other's houses. I had friends around every Friday evening. They came with all their kids, for years. Because I questioned a few things she stopped coming round. Just stopped, no further contact. It's not possible to keep friends once they know how you think.

I was not disfellowshipped just stopped going.

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Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

by aintenoughwiskey in

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here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

it wasn't all bad all the time!

disillusioned 2

Going back about 30 years ago, a group of young witnesses from my congregation went to London. They were staying at a hotel for a few days. I and one of my friends wished we had gone too but couldn't afford to stay in the hotel.

A friend of ours who had gone to London arranged for us to stay at a sister's who they had met in the museum. We never got to meet this sister but she left us her keys at the museum with instructions to get to her flat. She didn't know us but trusted us because we were sisters.

Quite amazing really.

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How strong were you in “The Truth?”

by John Aquila in

when you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.

what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.

then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?

disillusioned 2

John Aquila

So many have died, very sad. Also they would have believed they wouldn't have had to wait long to be resurrected as ' the end' was so close!

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How strong were you in “The Truth?”

by John Aquila in

when you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.

what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.

then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?

disillusioned 2

Well I lost a lot of blood after having an emergency C section after being in labour for 36 hours 26 years ago. I had already signed the forms to say I did not want blood beforehand.

At that time, even though obviously I didn't want to die having my first baby, I truly believed that if I died I would wake up in paradise but that if I took the blood I may live temporarily but would not get through Armageddon and would ultimately lose out on the 'real life' in the new system.

Fortunately I didn't die then and got to bring up my baby. But guess I'm going to die now (one day).

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Children and University

by disillusioned 2 in

just wanted to share some good news.

my daughter has just got her first job as a school teacher, she starts in september.

another daughter will be starting university in september, and one of my sons also.

disillusioned 2

Just wanted to share some good news. My daughter has just got her first job as a School Teacher, she starts in September. Another daughter will be starting University in September, and one of my sons also. He will be going to Japan in his second year with the intention of moving there to also be a teacher when he has graduated.

I feel very proud and so glad that despite their young lives being indoctrinated they have all managed to get away from it and to go on to fulfil their lives in ways that I never could.

I left school at 15 with no aspirations to do anything except get a job in a shop, (which I did) and to preach as much as I could. As time went by I did progress to working in a bank as a typist. I would have loved to teach also, but never got that opportunity. Although to be fair not many people from my background in Uk went to University. Most of us did get jobs in factories, shops or offices.

I am so glad that my children will have a better quality of life than I did and its good to know there are some brains in the family, lol.

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It came in today's mail

by Virgochik in

it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

disillusioned 2

I'm exactly the same with my mum. She's 85 now and I know she will never change. We though have come to an unspoken truce of not really talking about it anymore. We talk about everything else except this. I have to really bite my tongue a lot, it's very hard for me mentally. We had a lot of arguments in the past, we would both get upset and then not speak for weeks. I visit her every day, and I hate the fact that she will die still believing that one day she will wake up in a paradise.

I hope things get easier for you.

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Can't sign out!

by stillin in

my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.

i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.

i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!

disillusioned 2

My daughter texted me last week and said "dad is trying to hack into your tablet". I was really panicking because I hadn't deleted my history before I went out. He gets really annoyed because I have a password on. "What is she trying to hide" he says. I take it out with me now every time I go out. I also delete all the history after being on it.

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No end to JW logic, Oranges can make you gay

by James Mixon in

i was told that today by a jw...no more to say.

disillusioned 2

Oranges are not the only fruit, is a book by Jeanette Winterson

This is the story of Jeanette, adopted and brought up by her mother as one of God's elect. Zealous and passionate, she seems destined for life as a missionary, but then she falls for one of her converts.

At sixteen, Jeanette decides to leave the church, her home and her family, for the young woman she loves. Innovative, punchy and tender,

Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit is a few days ride into the bizarre outposts of religious excess and human obsession.